An edifying email exchange at Apprising Ministries, which concerns Ray Comfort and a conference featuring prominent preachers of the heresies of the Word Faith movement.
A response to Ken’s follow up missive can be read by clicking “more”.
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Thank you for your thorough and clear reply. You can rest assured that I don’t take any personal offense to the opinions you or Ingrid have presented at your websites or in our personal e-mail exchanges, yet even with the clarifications I’ve received thus far from both yourself and Ingrid I still find your collective position to be in error and it looks like we’re simply going to have to agree to disagree.
To be honest I was somewhat hesitant to even share my original private correspondence to Ingrid with you, but it said everything I had to say and I believe that she would not mind openly sharing with you anything she’s said to me in private. I presume the same is true of our correspondence.
To clarify your statement: “Further, I want you to help me understand why a Christian would EVER say that I teach we are to reject ANY opportunity to proclaim the Lord’s glorious gospel of grace to unregenerate sinners. The fact is I didn’t say, and never would say, anything of the sort.”
My point wasn’t that you or Ingrid made this defacto statement, yet in the apparent zeal to divorce Ray Comfort from the speaking engagement in question this would be the defacto actual result – a tacit denial of the faithful presentation of the eternal gospel of grace! Under any circumstances this is always too high a price to pay, Ken. In my view of scripture accepting an invitation to faithfully preach the uncompromised gospel of grace is not to be denied, period. In fact I cannot think of ANY case in scripture where a minister of the gospel refused to preach the gospel, not once! Can you?
Ken, I’m not here to impugn Ingrid’s nor your godly motivations, but I passionately and unabashedly disagree with the two of you on what I perceive to be the real substance of this issue which has nothing to do with being unequally yoked, but has everything to do with the faithful proclamation of the pure gospel. As a pastor you already know that the faithful proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ is God’s chosen method by which He miraculously and supernaturally converts deadened hell bound sinners into lively stones fitly joined together. In my view anytime we’re found to be standing over and against a faithful presentation of the gospel, then we find ourselves on the wrong side of the issue – every time.
You say Ray is unequally yoked with the WoF’ers, and it’s okay for you to say and truly believe that; but that’s not what I see or hear in the presentations he’s given at prior conferences that I’ve listened to nor from his own written statement. Which of those other presenters is going to tell the truth if Ray doesn’t go and tell the truth? None of them! If Ray does indeed go to the conference and pull a “Ravi” then I sincerely believe we will stand side by side to call upon him to repent, but to presume that he must avoid a faithful presentation of the eternal gospel because of the venue is, in my mind, just wrongheaded and there’s simply no scriptural support for taking such a postion. Was Paul unequally yoked in his Mars Hill Discourse with the Athenians or when he went from synagogue to synagogue preaching?
The gospel is the solution to culture.
The gospel is the answer to error.
The gospel is the means whereby the One True and Living God reconciles sinners unto Himself.
Until men have been converted by the supernatural power imbued by the faithful preaching of the gospel all the discernment in the world doesn’t matter in the least.
As you’ve correctly pointed out Ray Comfort is an evangelist, not an apologist, and from The One True and Living God’s boundless oceans of mercy, grace, pity and love He and He alone will see to it that His elect are gathered into the true Church of Jesus Christ, the Body and Bride of Christ whom He has chosen in Himself from the foundations of the world. He and He alone will draw them to Himself and sanctify them from glory to glory, finally presenting them spotless and glistering to the eternal praise of His glory alone forever and evermore. This is achieved by the foolishness of the preaching of the cross, which is the eternal gospel of grace.
The LORD will lead His own stray sheep home and to be quite frank I would suspect that many, if not most, Christian’s testimony would be similar to mine when I say that the man from whom I providentially heard the gospel that the Lord used to save my soul is not the One who has ever since led me in the paths of righteousness and grace. This is the LORD’s doing and it is marvelous in our eyes!
As I’ve already said to Ingrid I’m certainly not as close to the “behind the scenes” issues surrounding this matter as you and she obviously are, but at the bottom of the equation lies the faithful proclamation of the eternal gospel of grace which is the power of God to save unregenerate sinners and, as you know, it must be proclaimed by all means and to all men by commandment of our Lord and King. As you know, this is deadly serious business.
I’ll close by sharing Ingrid’s response to my e-mail and my follow up, because I believe based on your article and your response to me that you and she basically share the same viewpoint on this matter, and I don’t think it would be productive for either of us if I were to respond point by point to your e-mail. I do hope and pray this frank, open, and honest dialogue doesn’t cause any feelings of animosity or contention to arise between us as I value you as a brother and fellow bondservant of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Risen Savior and King of Glory. Furthermore I can truly tell you that the Lord knows that I have nothing but respect and honor and godly love in my heart for you and Ingrid.
Thanks for your frank and honest reply, and we do indeed remain in disagreement; a situation which I find to be quite unusual if not downright uncomfortable. You’re correct when you explain that I’m unaware of the “behind the scenes” activities surrounding Ray Comfort and his ministry which is quite natural as all I have to go on is the man’s public ministry and the “conversation of his life” as I can see it from a distance. Clearly you’re closer to these issues than I, and with this in mind I’ll certainly take you at your word on these matters.
I’m also fully aware of the heretical nature WoF movement and its false teachers because the Lord of Glory in His providence actually delivered me from a Charismatic Pentecostal WoF false religious “vain-traditions-of-men” upbringing. In fact the Lord in His wisdom has seen fit to use my past experiences wallowing in the WoF doctrines of equine ejectus to equip me as a meager apologist against their rank and damnable heresies.
Yet at base the issue herein as I see it isn’t about the personalities involved, but rather the real issue is whether or not the glorious gospel of grace is being faithfully proclaimed. This is the difference between life and death; not the personal foibles of imperfect, sinful, fallen men and women. The WoF heretics such as Murdock, Copeland, Duplantis, et al are clearly wolves and unregenerate sinners and therefore we ought not to be surprised when they act like the wolves and sinners that they are.
Yet from all appearances Ray Comfort is a sinner saved by grace who – at least for now – faithfully proclaims the pure, Biblical, true, uncompromised gospel of grace impartially and to all comers. To this I say bravo and “praise the Lord!” and I pray that he would be mightily used of the Lord to reach His elect, wherever they may be found from every kingdom, tribe, tongue, and nation to the praise of His glory alone forever and evermore!
The quickening light of the pure gospel of Jesus Christ will expose the corrupt falsehoods and wicked designs of sinful men and the heresies of the false teachers they heap unto themselves far more powerfully than any cleverly devised oratory originating from the heart of any sinful man -even if he were the greatest saint who ever walked the face of the earth. The Lord of Glory is completely sovereign and is fully able to deliver His true children from the hands of the oppressor, just as he has led you and I and many, many others from the shackles by which we were bound.
Just as with the Muslim, the Buddhist, the atheist, the Mormon, the JW, the Roman Catholic, the emergent/emerging cultist – or any other false religionist – the One True and Living God of the Holy Bible is absolutely sovereign and is more than able to deliver the WoF adherent from his bondage and oppression and bring him into a right relationship with Himself by His gospel power alone.
Again I think this is your major error and where your logic seems to be runnning aground on this matter – a small view of God’s true gospel power and a big view of Satan’s lying deceptive power. This is perhaps the most critical point I made in my previous message, which I’ll note in passing that you didn’t respond to. I’m not arguing that the deception of our day isn’t great – it certainly is – rather I’m arguing that the uncompromised truth of the eternal gospel of grace, faithfully presented, is greater; and it certainly is.
So to you, and to Ray Comfort, and to all I would say, “May the gospel of grace be faithfully proclaimed and thundered forth from the mountaintops to the eternal praise of King Jesus forever and ever, and may we who are called by His Holy Name never think it good to withhold Christ’s life giving message from anyone for any reason whatsoever”.
Thanks again for your reply. I hope you have a happy 4th of July!